|Council Meeting report June 2010|
|Written by Administrator|
|Friday, 25 June 2010|
Electoral Meeting of Council & Special Meeting
Wednesday 23rd June 2010
1. Welcome to Delegates
2. Apologies for absence
3. Ratification of Council Meeting held on 14th April 2010
a) Council agenda April 2010
b) Minutes of Council meeting held on 17th February 2010
c) Minutes of Council Meeting held on 14th April 2010
Carol Pike, Seal & Blue Point Birman Cat Club asks the Chairman if it is possible to ratify each section of the minutes and agenda separately, Mr. Hansson responds that it is, but if that is the case he wanted to start with the minutes of 17/02/10.
Carol Pike asks if Steven Bunce is the Treasurer or the Acting Treasurer as the minutes refer to him as both.
John Hansson responded that he was acting.
Frances Peace, Bengal Cat Club said that she was sorry but that the constitution says the treasurer is not an elected position, that it is an appointed position and therefore he was ‘the’ treasurer and not ‘acting’, Frances asked the treasurer to clarify.
Keith Scruton stepped in and said that Council had agreed that they needed someone to replace Tom Hollway.
Frances Peace again apologised and said that in the constitution it stated than the position is associated with an honorarium which wasn’t the case in this instance.
John Hansson said that today’s meeting was about ratification of the April meeting and he didn’t want to get hung up on minor points.
Frances Peace said that she did not want to labour the point but that she was going by the written word.
John Hansson said that Council were going through amendments at this stage. Lyn Hudson said that there was an amendment to the list of judges from the last meeting and that she had given a letter to Mr. Hansson, who agreed he had it and had passed it on appropriately.
There was some discussion from the floor regarding what the changes were and that the delegates felt they needed to know before they could vote on an agreement.
Lyn Hudson explained that under C1697 item b) the following needed to be changed: Also the BAC have requested the name of Mrs. Lyn Hudson to be removed from the Self Persian list as a result of the recent decision taken by the Investigations Committee.
Lyn Hudson requested that the comments after the word ‘list’. It was agreed to remove this.
John Hansson asked that Council ratify the decision to move forward with the Business Plan put together by Steve Crow, council voted and it was ratified.
Also ratified were the Constitutional Changes, Rule Changes, Judges List and then John moved onto Item 10 Show Matters (Reserve Grands for Non Pedigrees).
Frances Peace stepped in at this point and asked why a reason had not been put forward for the Non Pedigrees to have Reserve Grand certificates.
Anne Gregory, South West Birman said that it was to do with the 13 day rule.
Frances Peace said that it had been queried in the office.
Irene Roos, Maine Coon Cat Club said that it was to bring the Household Pets into line with the Pedigree Section.
Penny Akehurst, Burmese said that if the Household Pet section were paying the same fees as the Pedigree section they deserve the same classes.
Mick Coomer said that he agreed with the 13 day rule and that the Household Pets should also be able to get the Reserve Grand. Item 10 was then taken to a vote and ratified.
John Hansson moved the meeting onto Item 5.
Ron Pike, National Cat Club said that he wanted clarification because as far as he was aware the April meeting had been ruled ‘out of order’ so that no decisions made were legal done. John Hansson said that the meeting was not out of order. Ron Pike said that the members did not say the meeting could take to the vote only for the meeting to go ahead, the minutes only say that the members said the meeting could go ahead and not that any vote could be taken. John Hansson responded that if Ron Pike were being pedantic then this was the case. Ron Pike said that it wasn’t about being pedantic, it was to clarify that everything complies with the GCCF constitution. John Hansson replied that in the past there had been supplementary agendas, Ron Pike interrupted and said that his question was plain and simple and asked if John Hansson’s answer was that the process had followed the constitution.
John Hansson said that everything discussed had to be ratified.
Keith Scruton said that the discussions at the April meeting were to be ratified at this meeting.
Ron Pike reiterated that he had asked if it met with the constitution and that John had said it did.
John Hansson confirmed that it did. John Hansson led the room to their white voting papers and asked that delegates simply answered ‘Yes’ or ‘No’.
There was some confusion and discussion over which slip to use, eventually the papers were collected in and taken outside to be counted which was overseen by Steven Bunce.
The meeting was moved onto the minutes of the 14th April 2010 meeting.
Ron Pike questioned the minute C1711 regarding The Supreme Show Update, Ron Pike said that he understood in a previous council meeting it had been agreed by Council to have minutes from every committee meeting.
John Hansson replies that there had only been a meeting last week (June 2010)
Ron Pike asked where the minutes were. John Hansson replied that there is only one meeting for the Supreme Committee each year.
Ron Pike asked again if there were any minutes of any Supreme meetings and for confirmation of there only one meeting.
John Hansson said there were not any minutes and that there had been only one meeting since Supreme 2009.
A delegate asked if there was a vote on qualification and if non qualification would also happen next year.
John Hansson responded that non qualification for Supreme would only happen this Centenary year.
John Hansson asked if anyone had any additional matters arising.
Barry Tackley, National Cat Club asked about a Turkish Van BAC query. John Hansson said it was on today’s agenda.
There was a vote taken to sign off the minutes and it was passed.
During the first part of the Chairman’s report, the result was brought back for the vote to ratify the vote to Incorporate.
For – 92
Against – 29
Many thanks to GCCF Treasurer Steven Bunce, for supplying Cat Planet with the percentage of 76.4% majority to incorporate.
John Hansson went onto say that he had received a letter from DEFRA giving permission to use the word ‘Council’ in the company name.
John asked for any questions.
Stephanie Roberts of the Blue Pointed Siamese Cat Club said that after the vote was taken at the April meeting there was much discussion regarding borrowing about assets, Stephanie said that she was very concerned about this as were her club members as they felt the GCCF could find themselves in debt.
John Hansson said that it was said the GCCF ‘could’ borrow against assets but all decisions would first be made by council.
John continued with his Report.
4. Chairman’s Report
John Hansson opened by saying that it had been a ‘Really really’ busy year, he went on to say that the business plan had been proposed and approved and that there had been many long executive meetings.
John said that there had been lots of changes bringing the GCCF into the 21st Century and if all things went to plan the GCCF were set to host the World Cat Congress in 2013. After an interruption regarding the voting of ratification of Incorporation, John moved on with his Chairman’s report.
John said that the GCCF now had an active genetics committee and that there was a lot more information available, many universities were coming up with testing for genetics in our cats and that it is now much more of an affordable process to test our cats for potential issues, John said that we all need to be on the ball with any genetic issues with our cats and that we will be the subject of scrutiny again. John said that the GCCF is now working with FAB and has a good rapport with them.
John concluded with a ‘That’s it!’
Frances Peace, Bengal Cat Club asked John Hansson if new delegates could introduce themselves as is customary. New delegates stood and introduced themselves.
5. Club Matters
6. Election of Officers & Committees
The floor was given to Keith Scruton who took the vote for Chair.
There was only one nomination for Chairman and that was for John Hansson, a vote was taken and passed.
There was only one nomination for Vice Chair and that was for Helen Marriott Power, a vote was taken and passed, this was met with claps and cheers from the room.
Later in the meeting a vote was taken for Vice President and Grace Denny was appointed.
Nominations and results for Executive are as follows:
Steve Crow - 104
Gillian Bennett - 102
Celia Leighton - 100
Lynda Ashmore - 97
Michele Codd - 94
Mary Kalal - 91
Doreen Goadby - 88
Jen Lacey - 87
Pat Perkins - 85
Anne Gregory - 84
Joyce Green - 83
Rosemary Fisher - 81
Sally Rainbow Ockwell - 73
Sean Farrell - 71
Hilary Dean - 70
Irene Roos - 69 (Reserve)
John Robinson - 63 (Reserve)
Sue Amor - 64
Brian Gregory - 60
Betty Conway - 55 7.
Adjournment for Special Meeting of Council
John Hansson read out a statement bringing the ‘club’ GCCF to a close, relieving the trustees of their duties.
Christina Dugdale was sat at the top table and addressed the meeting, Christina said that she was an old timer and a GCCF president, she said that she was here to say that as cat lovers they were here to ratify the decision on a 2/3rd majority to incorporate.
Christina said that Council had deliberated on an important decision and that any difficulties must be put aside to work together for the Cat Fancy’s benefit. Christina said that immediately after the war was when she attended her first cat show and that there was no money at all, the country was insolvent, Christina said that the vital ingredients that she would like to see back in the cat fancy were enthusiasm and Inspiration and wants to see everyone to work together to rekindle that.
There was a round of applause as Christina finished speaking.
John Hansson asked for any questions or concerns. The vote came back for the actual vote to incorporate which was:
Yes – 106
No – 21
John explained the last vote was to ratify the vote to incorporate from April’s meeting and this vote was to actually incorporate.
John asked the delegates what they would like as the official name and a vote was taken on ‘Governing Council of the Cat Fancy Limited’ – a vote was taken and passed. A further vote was taken by delegates on whether to discard the use of "Ltd" in the agreed name, the vote was passed not to use "Ltd" in the name and would be known as the "Governing Council of the Cat Fancy".
John asked if the delegates would like to use the name GCCF Limited, the delegates did not.
John Hansson concludes the extra meeting, thanking Christina for coming along.
8. Election of Committees Continued
Maria Chapman – 97
Steve Crow – 93
Doreen Goadby – 76
Brian Gregory – 64
Rosemary Fisher – 56
Sally Rainbow Ockwell – 54 (Reserve)
Pat Perkins – 46 (Reserve)
Gillian Bennett - 112
Diana Harper - 112
Michele Codd - 104
Mary Kalal - 101
Kay Jarvis – 97
Barbara Prowse - 58 (Substitute)
Sarndra Devereux - 50 (Substitute)
S Rainbow Ockwell (Reserve)
Betty Shingleton (Reserve)
M Chapman – 110
P Perkins - 92
S Crow - 89
R Fisher - 66
B Conway – 65
B Bennett – 65
G Cornish – 48
N Johnson – 40 (Reserve)
J Fleming – 39 (Reserve)
N Goulter – 37 (Reserve)
M Coomer – 22 (Reserve)
9. Minutes of Meeting Executive Committee – 17/03/10
Frances Peace again questioned the title ‘Treasurer’ and the titles of ‘member’, Frances pointed out that affiliated clubs have members and wondered if there could be another description as ‘member’ has connotations of a member of the GCCF which has always been skirted around.
Harry Meekings, Siamese Cat Association suggested ‘Members of our Clubs’
John Hansson said it was perhaps a little lengthy.
A delegate suggested ‘Shareholders’ There were many calls of ‘Nooo’ across the hall.
Another delegate suggested Stakeholders.
Frances said she realized that the discussion was attempting to amend Executive minutes and suggested ending the offending sentence after the word ‘accepted’, this was agreed. Frances said then there was no reference and no confusion and that it was just a suggestion. John Hansson said that it made sense. There then ensued some confusion regarding which minutes the Chairman had moved on to, this was rectified and the meeting moved on.
Frances Peace raised that the minutes said that Executive had ‘approved’ must mean that Executive had approved the item to go forward to council and not that they had in fact approved the item itself. John Hansson said to Frances that he was very grateful for all of her help, to which the room laughed, John added, ‘No seriously…’
Frances Peace went onto say that Ragamuffins were looking for Preliminary recognition and not affiliation.
Jennifer Simms asked that a change was made to the judge list.
Frances Peace addressed ‘BAC Matters’ and said that she wanted to assure the Rex BAC that over stamping is being dealt with by the office and that it is being carried over from prior out crossing and is being picked up from the parents.
Stephen Parkin, Abyssinian Cat Association questioned EC2500 and asked regarding a late payment that Mr. Bunce had agreed to chase.
Steve Bunce answered that he had chased it and it had been paid.
Janet Tonkinson commented about the Rex matter and asked why the same couldn’t apply to Orientals as many are over stamped when they have never produced Longhairs or white progeny. John Hansson told Janet to take the matter to the BAC. Janet said that she wanted it removed from their breeding policies too and that she would take it to the BAC. Frances Peace addressed EC2510 regarding cats from other registering bodies competing at the Centenary Supreme this year. Frances said that there had been no proposal brought to council to change the constitution to allow these cats to compete at a GCCF show as the constitution states all cats competing at GCCF shows must be registered with the GCCF. (Section 4, Clause 1, Rule 1) John Hansson said that cats will be registered and that Council was split 50/50 when a vote was taken to allow it through. Frances said that if she could raise the ‘Specter’ a cat could come in from another registry and win their open class, go on to win BOB, go onto win BOV, go o to stand in the Final Line up and become Supreme Exhibit and the possibility of a cat that does not comply with the GCCF registration policy winning the GCCF Flagship Show. Frances said that she felt it was excluding and over riding the GCCF’s own cats, she pointed out that although this was an extreme scenario, it could happen.
John Hansson said ‘Mrs. Leighton would you like to answer’
Mrs. Leighton said ‘Not really’
Mick Coomer asked if the cats would be registered.
Frances Peace said that it was a separate ‘file’ for these cats.
Steven Parkin said that imported cats just show as having such and such a parents from such and such a country and if they register with us they must comply with our registration policy.
Celia Leighton addressed the meeting asking if Council would like her to speak, she said that they intend to have a separate register for these cats and that it would be an application for a ‘Certificate to Compete’, Celia said she doubted there would be vast numbers and said that Frances Peace was coming up with the worst scenario and ended with saying that was all she had to say at that point!
Frances Peace said that to clarify she would like to answer Steven Parkin’s point and said that when a cat is imported there must be a 4 generation pedigree submitted to ensure that the cat matches the GCCF registration policy, it is fully examined and checked to ensure it complies, the paperwork may indicate only the parents and country of origin but assured council there was much work put into it.
Jen Lacey said this was the point she was going to make.
Steve Crow, Burmese Cat Club said that this had been debated before and Frances Peace was correct about the rules and registration policy, Steve said that he thought this was a bit different for our centenary show and that we may end up with a Supreme or BOB winner being one of these cats but he personally didn’t mind.
This was met with a small round of applause from the hall.
Finance Committee – 17/02/10
Frances Peace asked about Steven Bunce stating that an inspection of the books had been requested by the auditor and not a full audit and that the constitution had indicated that a full audit must take place.
Steven Bunce said that an inspection had saved the GCCF £1000 and that it was adequate, but that if council wished for him to go back to the auditors and spend £1000 of GCCF’s money, he would do so but that the inspection was adequate.
John Hansson asked the room if they were happy to which the room shouted ‘Yes’!
a & b) Steven talked the room through the accounts and the news was cautiously good.
Expenditure was down and Income had increased slightly and Steven was still finding ways to improve the situation.
Disciplinary and Investigations still needed some attention.
Steven spoke about the ‘Contingent Liability’ in the accounts and said that the concerned party had approached GCCF Executive by their own volition and had said that they were probably not going to sue subject to further discussion, which had not been taken up by that Executive.
Steven implored the new Executive to move this forward and put the matter to bed.
Steven said that the GCCF had 2 month expenditure in hand.
John asked if there were any questions for Steven.
Carol Pike asked if the GCCF had Public Indemnity Insurance as it wasn’t in the accounts.
Steven said that the GCCF does.
Carol asked if it was for pens.
Steven said it was not, that it was for Public Insurance that Local Authority insists on and asked Carol to leave the confusion with him and he would come back to her.
A delegate asked about the postage amount doubling from 2008 and asked for an explanation.
Steven said that there was a considerable amount of postings in January for extra meetings but that everything was now being sent out 2nd class in the office to bring this under control.
Irene Roos said that she took exception to the suggestion people should not use disciplinary as she had recently seen an awful case and would not like to see such things not be pursued.
Steven said that he had meant complaints about Show Managers. Carole Jones asked if costs for Investigations were also attributed to the Disciplinary and asked if they could be shown to reflect that.
John Hansson agreed.
John Robinson said that it was nice to see that the GCCF was moving in the right direction and said that the postage was down to ‘extra costs’ for incorporation but despite his opposition he was glad it was finally put to bed.
The Kentish delegate stood and congratulated Steven Bunce and the Office for reducing the deficit from £40k to £9k to which was met with a round of applause.
c) A vote was taken to use O’Hara Wood for the GCCF auditors which was passed.
John Robinson suggested there was a proposal on the next agenda to substitute ‘audit’ for ‘review’ and that it would then be solved.
d) Frances Peace said that going back to procedure, Council did not receive correspondence and that delegates were able to address council and say what they want but it was not the place of the GCCF Chairman to respond, the delegate should stand and speak and not write to council.
Jane Francis Wilson, Oriental cat Association said she agreed with Frances Peace and that the letter reflected frustration dating back to October 2008 when the OCA had tried to impress upon the importance of a Business Plan and that there is a difference between a Business Plan and a Strategic Business Plan and that they strongly recommend an approach for the need of a Business Plan and that she had noticed today things going astray and this wouldn’t have happened and would’ve been picked up.
Steve Crow said that his business plan was meant to be an annual business plan but was ambitious and full and that the GCCF is in a difficult financial climate and suggested sticking to what was there and look for a new plan in the spring. Steve went on to say that it resonates with what Christina Dugdale had said earlier about pulling together, he said that apart from the office staff, no one else in the GCCF was paid and that the GCCF needs to find ways to improve working relationships.
11. The GCCF Young Exhibitors Scheme
Anne Gregory addressed the meeting by firstly addressing issues regarding some ‘mumblings’ about insurance to cover the children partaking in the scheme.
Anne told the room that she had documents and parental permission forms that had been ‘Okayed’ by 2 solicitors and someone who worked for the Duke of Edinburgh Award Scheme.
Anne addressed the matter of CRB checks and informed the hall that only the 2 administrators would require a CRB check and that judges, stewards and show managers would not.
Anne then introduced 12 year old ‘Patrick’ to the room to come and talk about how he felt about the scheme.
As the young man took the microphone, he informed the room that his name was actually Andrew and not Patrick, the room laughed as Anne apologised, Andrew was not offended but it really brought a light moment to the room and perhaps illustrated beautifully why it’s so important to bring young people into the GCCF.
Andrew spoke eloquently about the benefits of the scheme and his own cats and his experiences of showing and being a 2nd steward for his Mum who is a GCCF judge. (Andrew’s full talk will be published on Cat Planet).
Anne Gregory then read out a letter from another young exhibitor. (Also to be published on Cat Planet).
Mick Coomer said that the future of the GCCF lies with youngsters like Andrew and Lucy.
Anne Gregory said it would not be a drag on GCCF finances.
Sue Kirk, Essex Cat Club questioned the varying levels of participation and asked if there were clear direction to Show Managers of what the young people were expected to do.
Anne read through the paperwork to illustrate the ease of the process.
John Hansson asked if the consensus of opinion was ‘Yes’ to the Yes Scheme and the room seemed to be agreeable.
John Hansson asked again if the room was for the scheme and there was a definite majority.
12. Cat Welfare Trust
Keith Scruton addressed the room and said that there had been no time to plan a new project and that the committee was meeting on 5th Aug 2010 to look at projects for Autumn 2010, he said that when they have decided on a project he would make an announcement on the GCCF website.
13. GCCF Rule Changes
14. Application for Preliminary Recognition
Steven Parkin asked what the breed number would be.
Frances Peace said it would be 60 but that it was difficult to list them all as there were over 501 breed numbers required. Passed. A delegate asked which section the Ragamuffins would be shown in and were told it was the SLH section.
15 Supreme Show Update
Celia Leighton stood and came to the front of the hall and addressed the meeting, she said that following the discussion of the non GCCF cats, she confirmed that they wouldn’t be invited another year.
Celia said that 2010 Supreme would be a level playing field and that she had nearly finished the schedule.
Celia said the parking was limited undercover.
The kitten class is happening again but will be split into LH/SLH etc.
The Toy Competition would not go ahead this year as it was too much work last year.
The decorated pen competition would take place this year but it would be different and would be judged by celebrities but she was not prepared to say who they were as they probably wouldn’t turn up.
Celia was asked what this year’s theme was and she responded ‘Celebration’.
Jen Lacey raised the ‘Specter’ following on from Frances and asked if exhibitors would be required to sign agreeing to the 13 day rule.
Celia said they would.
Ron Pike said that Supreme had made a small profit last year by dropping one hall and asked how many halls had been booked for the 2010 show.
Celia said there would be 2 but they had an option on a third but probably wouldn’t use it as the 2 booked were marginally bigger but no so anyone would notice.
John Robinson said that it was imperative the constitution was adhered to regarding registrations of cats shown at GCCF shows.
Celia Leighton said that registration was not applicable as the cats were not being used for breeding but to be shown at one show.
John Robinson responded that he understood that but the constitution states the registration policy and that there isn’t one for showing and one for breeding that it was one registration policy and that it must be adhered to or an agenda item raised to change the constitution.
Nicky Goulter asked if all breeds could be penned together Adult, Kitten and Neuter and if exhibition cats could be penned within the section and not separately for those exhibiting in competition as well.
Celia said No and asked if Nicky wanted her to change the whole schedule. Nicky responded that she didn’t and that it didn’t matter.
Mick Coomer went back to the matter of registration and asked if the rules could be changed. John Hansson said no.
Mary Taylor, Suffolk & Norfolk Cat Club asked if the cats could be registered with the Supreme and not the GCCF.
Celia said that was what had been agreed and that it was an extra £12.
Carol Pike said that before Nicky Goulter had interrupted, John Robinson had been making a good point regarding registration.
John Hansson said that he agreed with John Robinson, that it was in the rules and that the registration policy must be complied with.
A delegate asked why a 5 generation pedigree couldn’t be sent in with the application.
Frances Peace said that registration costs over £50 for an imported cat.
A delegate again pointed out there was one registration policy and not one for show and one for breeding.
Celia asked John if the imported cats were expected to pay £50 and John Hansson responded “If that’s what it costs.”
Mick Coomer said asked if there was something that could be done to allow Celia Leighton to do what she wants and to override the Registration Policy.
John Hansson said that Council have agreed to abide by the constitution and said that they needed to move on but must adhere to rules and principles.
A delegate said that if the issue was cost, could it not be discounted for the Supreme cats.
Celia Leighton said that only if the cats agreed to come off the register after the show.
Anne Gregory said that if exhibitors provided a 4 gen pedigree, even a copy as the originals were no longer kept, then they were complying and as a one off a reduced fee could be applied.
Frances Peace said that the current registration fee is £54, the ‘Supreme Special’ is £12, the current fees are actually £13 with a £5 admin fee, the £5 has been lost and £1 dropped on the ‘Supreme Special’ Frances said the opportunity was there for a change to be made at today’s meeting to change the rule to suit, but that it could not or any show could do a similar thing.
John Hansson said it was disappointing but Council has to stick to the rules and that in his opinion our best cats are better anyway.
Steve Crow said that he would like everyone elected to Executive to take a note that forward planning was required, he went on to say that he was Sick to death of being tripped up by the constitution and the rule book, he said it was frustrating to be made to stick to the letter and that he wanted to open things up and be more inclusive and make money instead of doing everything the same old way and if things didn’t change he didn’t want to be a part of it anymore. This was met with a round of applause.
Ron pike said that he understood the feelings but in a democratic society council had to follow rules, executive had the chance to put this item on the agenda, but to hear what had just been said by a member of executive is terrible!
Steve Crow attempted to interrupt but Ron Pike asked Mr. Crow to wait for his turn, and ended by saying Council has rules and they needed to be followed.
Jen lacey suggested GCCF have a 101st Birthday instead and invited overseas cats to that.
Michele Codd, Burmese Cat Club said it was a lost opportunity to open up to Europe and America and that the GCCF do need to show how we organize ourselves and that the World Cat Congress must see how we do it then as Council will be showcasing.
John Hansson asked if it mattered if the cats didn’t conform to the GCCF breeding policy, he said he understood this was a curve ball. A delegate said that if we just want to change rules to suit, all of the meeting shouldn’t matter.
A delegate said that there are rules for a reason and that she was dismayed to read on the Supreme website that these cats would be accepted and there was no mention of conforming to the Standard of Points or the Registration Policy.
John Hansson said they did not have to comply with the SOP to enter, that they would be judged on it at the show.
It was again pointed out by another delegate that Breeding and Showing were not separate registration policies.
John Hansson said that it was something GCCF needed to look at because it is stringent and complicated. Celia Leighton asked John to confirm that there was no way she could go ahead and if she just had to say to people that had booked hotels that it wasn’t on anymore.
Mick Coomer said that a lot of people were in favour and understood there were rules but asked the quickest way of changing the rules.
Patsy Knight, CRAOV said that perhaps she wasn’t bright but couldn’t they be entered as a Household Pet was. John Hansson responded by saying not if the cats want a CC
Anne Gregory said that a club had recently been given dispensation because of a mistake that had gone too far to correct and would have disadvantaged a club and asked if the same could apply here.
Bruce Bennett said that they had bent the rules for a constituent club who had been late with their returns and asked if the same could not be done for the cats at The Supreme and asked how much full registrations cost.
John Hansson responded £54.
Bruce Bennett said that we were only asking them to spend £54 extra and they could take the offer up if they wished.
John Hansson said it was a valid point Anne Gregory had made about Executive.
Carole Pike said that she was the guilty member regarding Anne Gregory’s mention and that she had been quite clear she was happy to change it and had emailed to say so. Lyn Hudson said that Rules and Regulations were broken.
Celia Leighton asked if a vote could be taken to go ahead with a certificate to compete for the Supreme Show. John Hansson said that it could not. A delegate suggested it was added to the Any Other Business at the end of the meeting.
John Hansson said that it couldn’t because anything voted on must be an agenda item. After discussion about other items a delegate came back to the matter of non GCCF Registered cats and said that because £250 had already been spent on the schedule could a vote be taken to let it through. The vote was taken and passed.
Carol Pike asked that no more money was spent on anything until it had been passed by council.
16. Registration Policies
Jen Lacey said that b) was not her breed or section but wanted to congratulate the BAC for identifying a problem and dealing with it in a breeding policy.
John Hansson agreed.
17. World Cat Congress 2013
John Hansson addressed the meeting saying that a show and a seminar had been lined up to be amalgamated for the World Cat Congress in 2013 to be hosted in the UK.
John said that the seminar should be self funding but the show could not pick up the cost of the Congress, John said that the GCCF needed to invite delegates from across the would and that Council needed to indicate if they wished for the Congress to go ahead.
Anne Gregory asked for an idea of costing.
John Hansson said that there was no idea of costing at that point.
Anne Gregory asked if there was some idea from previous WCC’s.
John Hansson said that the further away a judge is, the more they pay.
Anne Gregory pushed John Hansson for an answer on how many figures it was likely to be, 4, 5?
John Hansson said it would be the lower end of 4 figures.
Anne Gregory said that a UK show hosting 56 judges with hotel and travel is easily in a 4 figure total.
Steve Crow addressed the meeting saying that he was leading a group on PR & Marketing and that they had already began to think about sponsorship for the WCC and what they could do to earn money, Steve said that Congress would attract more entries.
Steve said it may seem silly to do this now with a small amount of money, council did need to take a straw poll. John Hansson said that if Council wanted to be seen to progressive, how could the GCCF be a part of it in future if they didn’t host it. John said that oversea exhibitors want to show at GCCF shows and that the Breed 32 show is a good example of international exhibitors attending.
John went on to say that there would be cost implications but he was not ‘breaking his back on it to find Council didn’t want it’.
Janet Tonkinson asked which show would be used.
John Hansson said it was a Seminar and a Show and that it would not be linked to the Supreme and the show in question would have international judges in attendance at the show. John asked for all those in favour and the item was passed.
John said that they would go ahead with the planning stages.
Steve Crow said that he would like to reassure people they would do more work and report back in October 2010.
A delegate asked what time of year it would happen and John Hansson replied that it would be in the summer.
18. Judges Voted and passed.
Helen Marriott Power addressed the room by announcing a new Standard of Points, Helen showed the room the lovely purple A5 ring binder thanking Dorren Goadby for resetting it, Helen said that the SOP even had the newly registered Ragamuffins in it, only passed at today’s meeting.
Helen said that the initial cost for the SOP was £10 but this offer was only available for the first 3 months of sale, after that it would be £15.
The SOP is available from the office at the £10 cost for the first 3 months but would also incur the postage charge.
A delegate asked what happens now with regards to clubs becoming members of the Limited company and John said that all clubs will receive correspondence from the Office in due course.
The meeting was called to a close early.
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